00:02-00:24 - Researcher: Hey there! I'm Trooly, and I'm really glad you could join me today. This conversation will take about 55 minutes, and I'm here to learn from your experiences. Before we get started, could you please give me a brief self-introduction? I'd love to get to know you a bit better. For example, you could tell me your age, occupation, and hobbies — or anything else you think would help me understand you better. - 嘿，你好！我是 Trooly，非常高兴你今天能加入。这次交谈大约需要 55 分钟，我来这里是为了从你的经验中学习。 在开始之前，你能简单自我介绍一下吗？我想更好地了解你。例如，你可以告诉我你的年龄、职业和爱好——或者任何你认为能帮助我更好地了解你的信息。

00:24-01:04 - Sarah: Hi. My name is Sarah. And I am thirty six years old. I'm a stay at home mom. Have three kids. And I also babysit. Um, I babysit two kids. One is four and one is seven. So I take the kids to school, um, and then we do before and after school care here with my kids as well as the ones I babysit. And in my free time, I like to read books. I like to garden. I like to go on walks. And I like to hang out with my family, friends, and take care of my pets. - 嗨。我叫 Sarah。我今年三十六岁。我是一名全职妈妈。有三个孩子。我也做代管照顾（看孩子）。嗯，我代管两个孩子。一个是四岁，一个是七岁。所以我送孩子们去学校，嗯，然后在这里照顾我自己的孩子和那些我代管的孩子，包括课前和课后的看护。在空闲时间，我喜欢读书。我喜欢园艺。我喜欢散步。我也喜欢和家人、朋友聚在一起，照顾我的宠物。

01:06-01:16 - Researcher: Thanks for sharing that, Sarah! Sounds like you have a full house with five kids total during the day. Can you walk me through what a typical weekday looks like for you, from morning to evening? - 谢谢你的分享，Sarah！听起来你白天要把五个孩子聚在一起，家里肯定很热闹。 你能带我了解一下你典型的周一到周五从早到晚的生活是怎样的吗？

01:19-04:27 - Sarah: Yes. So in the morning, wake up usually at six AM. I get myself ready come downstairs at six thirty. I start a load of laundry. Then I open the kitchen by putting away the dishes, I will clean up if there's any, like, toys on the floor from the night before, fold the blankets, I'll turn on a candle usually, or a wax warmer so that the house smells nice when, um, my family that I babysit for comes. Um, after that, the kids will come in and typically mine are sleeping. Still, the family comes at seven. We'll do, like, a morning activity. We'll do playing with sand, like kinetic sand, Play Doh. Painting, puzzles, something to get their mind awake for the day. My kids usually wake up about seven fifteen. They'll come and join us with the activity. Then the kids will start playing together. I'll start getting breakfast made for all five, and I'll make lunches for my three. I'll also, um, get their backpacks ready and everything they need, pick out their outfits, and have them get dressed and everything. Do teeth, hair, potty, shoes, all that. We'll get them to school, then I'll come home with the younger two, and I will do some chores, play with them. Sometimes if the weather's nice, we'll go out. We try and get outside when it's nice. But it's winter. I'm in Indianapolis area, so it it's really cold here now. And then they'll do some independent play while I get a snack ready. We'll work on some like, learning books and kind of stuff. Then we will get lunch ready. I'll take them to school. When they're at school, I do, more chores. I switch over laundry. I do the dishes. Um, whatever needs to be done around the house. I'll take the dog out, of course. I'll prep my husband's lunch for the next day. And I'll get the house tidied up. And then I'll do surveys if I have time. Or I'll do shopping, grocery shopping if I need to. I'll pick up the kids around three o'clock, then we'll go look at the big kids at three thirty. We'll come home, And then after, um, we're all home, we'll do a snack We'll get the kids ready, um, for activities if they have tutoring or some kind of sport that night, we'll we'll get ready for that. And that usually consists of backpacks away, getting a snack in their bellies, going potty, changing our clothes if we need to for the event, and then, um, we'll go to such thing, whether it's tutoring or sport or club or whatever. And then we'll come home. We'll have, um, a final meal if they're hungry, and then we will they'll get some free time to do homework first. And then after that, they can do free time. They can have up to an hour on TV. If they want, they can do an iPad for, like, thirty minutes. But then they have to do their chores, and they go to bed around eight thirty. - 好的。早上，通常六点钟起床。我自己准备好后，六点半下楼。我开始洗一桶衣服。然后通过收好餐具来“开启”厨房，我会清理前一天晚上留在地板上的玩具，叠好毯子，我通常会点上蜡烛或者香薰蜡烛机，这样当我代管的家庭过来时，家里闻起来很香。嗯，在那之后，孩子们会进来，通常我自己的孩子还在睡觉。那个家庭七点钟准时到。我们会做一个早晨活动。我们会玩沙子，比如动力沙、彩泥。画画、拼图，一些能让他们大脑在一天开始时活跃起来的事情。我的孩子通常在七点十五分左右醒来。他们会过来加入我们的活动。然后孩子们会开始一起玩。我开始为五个孩子准备早餐，并为我的三个孩子做午餐。我还会，嗯，准备好他们的背包和所有需要的东西，挑选他们的衣服，让他们穿好衣服等等。刷牙、梳头、上厕所、穿鞋，所有这些。我们会送他们去学校，然后带着最小的两个孩子回家，我会做一些家务，陪他们玩。有时候如果天气好，我们会出去。天气好的时候我们尽量呆在户外。但现在是冬天。我在印第安纳波利斯地区，所以现在这里非常冷。然后在我准备零食的时候，他们会自己玩。我们会做一些类似学习手册之类的东西。然后我们会准备午餐。我会送他们去学校。当他们在学校时，我会做更多家务。我换洗衣服。我洗碗。嗯，不管家里需要做什么都会做。当然我还会带狗出去。我会为我丈夫准备第二天的午餐。我会把房子收拾整齐。如果有时间，我会做问卷调查。或者如果需要的话，我会去购物、买菜。我会在三点左右接孩子，然后三点半去接大孩子。我们会回家，等大家都回家后，我们会吃点零食。如果孩子们那天晚上有辅导课或某种运动，我们会帮他们准备好。这通常包括收好背包、给他们填饱肚子、上厕所、如果需要的话为活动换衣服，然后，嗯，我们会去参加那些活动，无论是辅导课、运动还是社团什么的。然后我们会回家。如果他们饿了，我们会吃最后一餐，然后我们会让他们先有时间做作业。在那之后，他们可以有自由时间。如果想看电视，最多可以看一个小时。如果他们想玩 iPad，可以玩三十分钟左右。但之后他们必须做家务，然后在八点半左右睡觉。

04:29-04:38 - Researcher: Wow, that's incredibly detailed. You're managing a lot from 6 AM to 8:30 PM every day. You mentioned you do surveys in your downtime. What kind of surveys are those, and why do you do them? - 哇，细节非常详尽。每天从早上 6 点到晚上 8:30 你要处理很多事情。 你提到你在空闲时间做问卷调查。那是哪种类型的调查，你为什么要在那之后做呢？

04:51-05:15 - Sarah: I do surveys for two different companies right now. The first one is called SurveyJunkie, I wanna call it. Um, and then the second one is actually the UserTesting that I've accessed this, um, survey or focus group That's probably a better word for it. Through, um, I do that to earn additional income for my family since I am a stay home mom. I do that because they're really convenient for me to, um, do in my downtime. - 我现在为两家不同的公司做调查。第一家叫 SurveyJunkie，我想是这个名字。嗯，第二个其实就是我现在参与的这个，UserTesting，我是通过它参加这个调查或访谈小组的，用这个词可能更准确。通过这个，嗯，我做这些是为了在作为全职妈妈期间为家里赚取额外收入。我做这个是因为在我的空闲时间操作起来非常方便。

05:16-05:26 - Researcher: Got it. So the surveys and focus groups are a way to bring in extra money while still being home with the kids. How much do you typically earn from these each month, if you don't mind sharing? - 明白了。所以问卷调查和访谈小组是一种在照顾孩子的同时赚取额外收入的方式。 如果你不介意分享的话，你每个月通常能从中赚多少钱？

05:40-06:17 - Sarah: Uh, the SurveyJunkie one, it's not a lot. If I'm lucky, I could make two dollars a day, so we'll call it fourteen a week, Maybe. Maybe if I do it every single day, I get fifty bucks a month for that one. Um, and then the UserTesting, one has been really good. It's a little harder to get chosen for focus groups. But I've had anywhere from you know, thirty dollars for an interview to a hundred dollars So I'd say on average, maybe a hundred and fifty. Sometimes I do get smaller ones that are, like, only ten minutes surveys. It it's based a lot on the time you spend doing them. - 呃，SurveyJunkie 那个钱不多。如果运气好，我一天能赚两美元，所以就算每周十四美元吧，大概。如果我每天都做，那家公司一个月能给我五十块钱。嗯，UserTesting 这个一直很不错。被选入访谈小组稍微难一点。但我参加过的一场面试收入从三十美元到一百美元不等。所以我认为平均每月大概一百五十美元。有时我也做一些更小的，只有十分钟的调查。这在很大程度上取决于你花在上面的时间。

06:20-06:30 - Researcher: So around $200 a month combined when things go well. That's helpful extra income for your family. Now let's shift gears and talk about AI. What AI apps or web tools do you use most often in your daily life? - 顺的时候每个月加起来大约 200 美元。这对你的家庭来说是不错的额外收入。 现在我们换个话题，聊聊 AI。在日常生活中，你最常使用哪些 AI 应用或网页工具？

06:32-06:48 - Sarah: I have ChatGPT on my phone as an app and then I use Google, which has an AI prompt. It's not one that I pay for, but it it provides a summary. Um, so I suppose those two are the ones I use the most. - 我的手机里有 ChatGPT 的应用程序，我还用 Google，它也带有一个 AI 提示。它不是那种我需要付费的版本，但它能提供摘要。嗯，我想这两个是我用得最多的。

06:50-06:58 - Researcher: Okay, so ChatGPT and Google's AI features. You mentioned ChatGPT is on your phone as an app. Are you paying for ChatGPT, or using the free version? - 好的，ChatGPT 和 Google 的 AI 功能。 你提到你的手机里有 ChatGPT 应用程序。你是付过费的，还是在使用免费版？

07:21-07:23 - Sarah: I was using the free version. I paid for it once. I canceled, and I recently rejoined just because I had so many questions that you it only allows you to use it so many times before you have to wait like, twenty four hours to ask more. So I I downloaded and purchased it for a monthly plan. - 我之前一直用免费版。我也付过一次费。后来取消了，最近又重新加入了，只是因为我有太多的问题，它在限制次数后必须等大约二十四小时才能再问。所以我下载并购买了月度会员计划。

07:26-07:32 - Researcher: Got it. So you're currently paying for ChatGPT on a monthly plan. How much is that monthly plan exactly, and when did you rejoin? - 明白了。所以你目前正在支付 ChatGPT 的月度计划。 那个月度计划具体是多少钱，你是什么时候重新加入的？

07:37-07:42 - Sarah: I wanna say the it's eight dollars and ninety nine cents a month And I joined in January, so it's been less than a month. - 我觉得是每月 8.99 美元。我是从一月份加入的，所以还不到一个月。

07:45-07:51 - Researcher: So you just rejoined in January at $8.99 a month. Besides ChatGPT, are there any other AI apps or tools you're currently paying for? - 所以你刚刚在一月份重新加入，每月 8.99 美元。 除了 ChatGPT 之外，目前你还有付费使用其他 AI 应用或工具吗？

07:54-07:55 - Sarah: No. - 没有。

07:57-08:00 - Researcher: Alright, so ChatGPT is the only - 好的，所以 ChatGPT 是你目前唯一——

08:00-08:00 - Sarah: Yes. - 是的。

08:03-08:10 - Researcher: one you pay for right now. You mentioned you canceled it before and then came back. Walk me through what made you decide to pay for it again in January. - 唯一付费的一个。 你提到你之前取消过，然后又回来了。请带我了解一下，是什么让你决定在一月份再次付费？

08:12-09:04 - Sarah: So when I was using it in the past, I was using it very frequently, and I was using it to generate images for some remodeling in my home that we were doing. Once I was done with that, I didn't really use the app as much. So I did cancel it. But I wanted I thought it was worth the eight ninety nine a month to get several answers a day and not have to wait in between receiving the information or the answers. And then, so I wasn't paying for it for a couple months And then in January, I've had a lot of medical things go on. A family member. And so I've been using ChatGPT for a lot of that and kinda breaking down what some of the medical stuff means and I just thought it was valuable enough that I would pay the eight ninety nine to get all my answered. - 以前我用的时候，用得非常频繁，我用它来生成一些家里正在装修的图像。一旦工程完成了，我就不怎么用这个应用了。所以我把它取消了。但我认为每个月付 8.99 美元，每天能得到很多个答案，而且不需要在接收信息或答案之间等待，是非常值得的。后来，有几个月我没付钱。然后在一月份，我经历了很多医疗方面的事情。是关于一位家人的。所以我一直在用 ChatGPT 处理很多这类事情，把一些医疗术语分解开来看看是什么意思。我当时觉得这很有价值，所以我愿意付这 8.99 美元来得到所有解答。

09:06-09:19 - Researcher: I'm sorry to hear about the medical situation. It sounds like ChatGPT became really helpful for understanding complex medical information. Can you give me a specific example of a medical question you asked and how ChatGPT helped you make sense of it? - 听到关于医疗状况的事我很遗憾。听起来 ChatGPT 在帮助理解复杂的医疗信息方面真的很有帮助。 你能给我一个你问过的医疗问题的具体例子，以及 ChatGPT 是如何帮你理解它的吗？

09:52-09:57 - Sarah: Yeah. So I was able to export a document from HealthLink, which is, like, my doctor's online channel for giving you information. Um, I was able to export it, and say, hey. What does this mean? And it was, um, a some blood results for my children. And I was able to, like, break it down very simply what it meant. It gave me a brief overview. And then after I've absorbed that information, then it was able to ask me, okay. Would you like a deep dive? Would you like further clarification? It was really helpful. - 好的。我可以从 HealthLink 导出文件，那是我的医生用来提供信息的在线渠道。嗯，我把它导出来，然后问：“嘿，这是什么意思？” 那是我孩子的一些验血报告结果。它能非常简单地帮我分解出它的含义。它给了我一个简短的概览。等我消化了这些信息后，它还能问我：“好的，你想深入了解吗？你需要进一步说明吗？” 这真的很有帮助。

10:00-10:11 - Researcher: That's really useful, being able to upload the actual blood results and get it explained in plain language. When you say it asked if you wanted a deep dive, did you take it up on that? What else did you ask about those results? - 那非常有用，能够上传实际的验血结果并获得通俗易懂的解释。 当你提到它问你是否想要“深度挖掘”时，你接受了吗？关于那些结果你还问了什么？

10:14-11:07 - Sarah: Yeah. I still get up on a deep dive. I did that for a couple different tests that they ran. Just to get clarification and see what it meant And then I compared my children, um, and each other's test results. Sometimes the information was more complex than I was able to digest. So I said, break this down for me. More simple. Or I used it to say, okay, so one of the blood tests said that, um, my two of my children have a severe dairy allergy. So I used it, ChatGPT to help me Once we got the diagnosis and ChatGPT broke down, like, some of the levels and what it means and all that stuff. Was able to use it to say, okay. Here's some, um, food that he likes, Can you show me, like, a meal plan? Can you show me a shopping list? That kind of thing. - 是的。我确实接受了。我针对他们做的几个不同的测试都进行了深度挖掘。就是为了澄清并看看意味着什么。然后我对比了我孩子们各自的测试结果。有时候信息太复杂，我消化不了。所以我会说，帮我分解一下。再简单点。或者我用它来说，比如，其中一份血检结果显示，嗯，我的两个孩子有严重的乳制品过敏。我们就用 ChatGPT 来帮忙。在我们拿到诊断结果，ChatGPT 分解完了一些指标及其含义之类的内容后。我利用它来说，好的，这里有一些他喜欢的食物，你能给我一个饮食计划吗？你能给我一份购物清单吗？类似这种。

11:09-11:25 - Researcher: That's a big diagnosis to process. So ChatGPT helped you go from understanding the test results all the way to practical things like meal plans and shopping lists for dairy-free foods. How accurate or trustworthy did you feel the information was, especially for something as serious as your kids' health? - 处理这样的诊断结果是个巨大的挑战。所以 ChatGPT 帮你完成了从理解测试结果到实际操作（如无乳制品饮食计划和购物清单）的全过程。 对于像孩子健康这样严肃的事情，你觉得这些信息的准确性或可信度如何？

11:31-11:47 - Sarah: I trusted it pretty blindly. I mean, I I didn't fact check it. But I assumed it to be correct. Um, same with Google. When I use the Google AI features, I I'm not researching additionally. I am just taking its words. So guess that's interesting. But, yeah, I trust it. - 我几乎是盲目地信任它。我的意思是，我没有去核实事实。但我假定它是正确的。嗯，Google 也是一样。当我使用 Google 的 AI 功能时，我不会去做额外的研究。我只是听信它的话。所以我觉得这挺有趣的。但是，是的，我信任它。

11:49-12:00 - Researcher: Interesting that you trust it without fact-checking, even for medical stuff. Before you had ChatGPT for these medical questions, what would you have done instead to understand the blood results or figure out the meal plans? - 有意思，你不用核实事实就信任它，即使是医疗方面的内容。 在你用 ChatGPT 解决这些医疗问题之前，你会怎么做来理解验血结果或制定饮食计划？

12:11-12:43 - Sarah: I would have googled everything. I I obviously talk to the doctor too when I get as much information as I can from them. But as far as, like, meal planning and, like, stuff at home, it's just nice to be able to enter in the information and say, okay. Like, he also doesn't like this just because he's picky. And and ChatGPT is able to give you answers that are more it's like talking to a person. It it understands, it really just helps guide where Google is more like, I'm sorry. There are no results. So ChatGPT is just a little more advanced, in my opinion. - 我会去搜索一切。我也当然会咨询医生，尽可能多地从他们那里获取信息。但至于像饮食计划和家里的事，能输入信息并说，好吧，他也因为挑食而不喜欢这个，这就很棒了。ChatGPT 给出的答案更……就像在和一个人说话。它能理解，它真的能提供引导，而 Google 更像是说“对不起，没有搜索结果”。所以在我的观点中，ChatGPT 更高级一点。

12:45-12:58 - Researcher: That makes sense—it's more conversational and adapts to your specific situation, like your son being picky, rather than just giving generic search results. Are there other things beyond the medical stuff that you've been using ChatGPT for recently? - 明白了——它更具对话性，能适应你的具体情况，比如你儿子挑食，而不是仅仅给出通用的搜索结果。 最近除了医疗方面，你还有用 ChatGPT 做其他事情吗？

13:15-13:40 - Sarah: Yeah. I've used it for silly things like, oh, what would my hair color look like if it was brown? What would it look like if it was blonde? What would I look like if I cut my hair or my girls, they wanted to know what would they look like with blue eyes, you know, just silly things like that. I've asked it, what's my color season? Because I saw it on TikTok. I asked it some questions about remodeling, so I, like, uploaded a photo of my room. And then I showed pictures of inspiration that I from Pinterest. And I said, hey, combine these images with these measurements and show me what it would look like. And it was able to. - 有的。我用它做一些傻事，比如，哦，如果我的头发是棕色的看起来会怎么样？如果是金色的呢？如果我剪头发会看起来怎么样？或者我的女儿们，她们想知道如果她们有蓝色的眼睛看起来会怎么样，你知道的，就是这些傻事。我问过它我的“四季色彩分析”是什么，因为我在 TikTok 上看到的。我问了它一些关于装修的问题，所以我上传了一张我房间的照片。然后我展示了从 Pinterest 上找来的灵感图片。我说，嘿，把这些图像和这些尺寸结合起来，给我看看效果图。它做到了。

13:45-14:01 - Researcher: So you're using it for all kinds of visual stuff—hair color changes, eye color, room remodels. That's pretty different from the medical questions. When you were doing the room remodel images before, that's when you had the paid version the first time, right? What made you cancel it after that project was done? - 所以你用它来处理各种视觉效果——发色改变、瞳孔颜色、房间装修。这和医疗问题很不一样。 之前在做房间装修效果图时，那是你第一次付月费的时候，对吧？那个项目结束后你为什么要取消它？

14:04-14:27 - Sarah: After that project was done, I canceled because I wasn't asking it. I would go days without using so I just didn't see the value in it. And it's it's a very easy app to just cancel, like, if I'm not using it for that month, then I can just cancel it. Yes. So because it's so easy, um, and there's not, like, a huge commitment to how long you have to use it, it's I like it for that. - 那个项目结束后，我取消了，是因为我不怎么问它了。我会好几天都不用，所以我没觉得它有什么价值。而且这个应用很容易取消，比如，如果我这个月不用，我就直接取消。是的。正因为它这么方便，嗯，而且没有什么长期使用的强制义务，我因为这点很喜欢它。

14:30-14:44 - Researcher: So the flexibility to cancel and restart without commitment is actually a big plus for you. Now that you're paying again, do you think you'll keep it going after the medical stuff settles down, or will you cancel again? - 所以灵活取消和重启，且没有捆绑约束，对你来说其实是一个很大的亮点。 既然你现在又开始付费了，你觉得在医疗事情平息后，你会继续用下去，还是会再次取消？

14:47-15:03 - Sarah: I might cancel again and use the free option. But I foresee me needing it for another month or two. Correct. - 我可能会再次取消然后用免费版。但我预见到接下来的两个月我还是需要它。没错。

15:03-15:13 - Researcher: Got it. So you'll probably keep it for a bit longer, then reassess. Thinking about your overall spending on AI tools in the next six months, do you see yourself spending more, less, or about the same as you are now? Why? - 明白了。所以你可能会再保留一段的时间，然后再评估。 考虑到你在未来六个月在 AI 工具上的整体支出，你认为你会花得更多、更少，还是和现在差不多？为什么？

15:23-15:31 - Sarah: About the same because I foresee me occasionally needing more information on random things. And I trust ChatGPT's answers, and I appreciate the value it brings. - 大约差不多，因为我预见到自己偶尔会对一些随机的事情需要更多信息。我信任 ChatGPT 的回答，我也很看重它带来的价值。

15:34-15:44 - Researcher: Makes sense. So you'll probably keep cycling it on and off depending on what you need. Have you had any purchases of AI products recently that you felt really satisfied with, or maybe disappointed by? - 明白了。所以你可能会根据需要，继续在开启和关闭订阅之间循环。 最近你有没有购买过让你觉得非常满意，或者可能感到失望的 AI 产品？

15:45-15:48 - Sarah: I've been satisfied with the ChatGPT purchase I made. - 我对购买 ChatGPT 感到很满意。

15:50-15:53 - Researcher: What specifically about that purchase made you feel satisfied? - 具体是这次购买的哪一点让你感到满意？

15:55-16:13 - Sarah: I liked that it was easy to sign up. I like that it's easy to cancel. I like that the app is easy to use. I like that it saves my information so I can reference it later. And I like how easy it is to ask questions. - 我喜欢它的注册非常简单。我也喜欢它取消起来很方便。我喜欢这个应用操作简单。我喜欢它能保存我的信息，供以后参考。我也喜欢它提问是多么的容易。

16:15-16:23 - Researcher: Those practical things really matter—easy sign-up, easy cancel, saves your history. Between ChatGPT and Google's AI summary feature, which one do you like better overall? - 这些实际因素确实很重要——注册简单，取消容易，保留历史记录。 在 ChatGPT 和 Google 的 AI 摘要功能之间，你整体上更喜欢哪一个？

16:26-16:27 - Sarah: ChatGPT. - ChatGPT。

16:29-16:32 - Researcher: What makes ChatGPT better for you compared to Google's AI? - 与 Google 的 AI 相比，ChatGPT 对你来说更好的地方在哪里？

16:42-16:45 - Sarah: ChatGPT offers more personalized information. Where Google AI features is more of an overall summary. In my opinion. - ChatGPT 提供了更多个性化的信息。而 Google 的 AI 功能在我看来更多是一个总体的摘要。

16:50-17:01 - Researcher: That personalization really seems to be the key difference for you—it remembers context and adapts to your specific situation. How did you first hear about ChatGPT? Do you remember where you saw it or who told you about it? - 这种个性化似乎确实是你的关键区别点——它记得上下文并能适应你的具体情况。 你最早是怎么听说 ChatGPT 的？你还记得在哪里看到的，或者谁告诉你的吗？

17:05-17:06 - Sarah: I heard about it through TikTok. For the first time. - 我第一次听说它是通过 TikTok。

17:08-17:12 - Researcher: What do you remember seeing on TikTok about it? What was the video showing or saying? - 你还记得在 TikTok 上看到过关于它的什么吗？视频展示了什么或者说了什么？

17:12-17:43 - Sarah: Yeah. Uh, when I first saw it, it was probably a year or more ago and the first thing I remember people saying was, it was about color analysis and finding your season of color. And people saying, oh, I downloaded this app called ChatGPT, and I upload a selfie, and then I ask it all these questions. And so, um, I had done that. And then at that point, I wasn't paying, but I enjoyed it, I found it helpful. - 记得。呃，我第一次看到它可能是一年或更久以前，我记得人们说的第一件事是关于色彩分析，找到你的色彩季型。人们说：“哦，我下载了这个叫 ChatGPT 的应用，我上传了一张自拍，然后我问了所有这些问题。”于是，嗯，我就照做了。那时我还没付钱，但我玩得挺开心，觉得很有用。

17:45-17:57 - Researcher: So you downloaded it pretty quickly after seeing that TikTok about color analysis? And how long did you use the free version before you decided to pay for the first time? - 所以你在 TikTok 上看到关于色彩分析的视频后很快就下载了？在你决定第一次付费之前，你用了多久免费版？

17:58-18:06 - Sarah: I would say I used it very casually. For a few months before I decided to pay for it. - 我想说我用得很随意。用了几个月之后才决定付费。

18:08-18:15 - Researcher: What was happening when you decided to upgrade? Was it just the remodeling project, or was there something else that pushed you to pay? - 当你决定升级时发生了什么？只是因为装修项目，还是有别的事情促使你付费？

18:17-18:22 - Sarah: No. Just the remodeling project, and I wanted more answers frequently. - 不，就是装修项目，我想频繁地得到更多答案。

18:24-18:34 - Researcher: Got it. So you were hitting the free limits and needed more back-and-forth for the remodeling. When you're using ChatGPT now, are you mostly typing questions or using voice, or a mix? - 明白了。所以当时你碰到了免费版的限制，在装修上需要更多的来回沟通。 现在用 ChatGPT 时，你主要是通过文字提问，还是用语音，或者是混合使用？

18:36-18:42 - Sarah: Usually, I type. I find I have inconsistencies when I try to do the voice text. - 通常我用打字的。我发现当我尝试使用语音转文字时，会有一些不准确、不连贯的地方。

18:45-18:48 - Researcher: What kind of inconsistencies do you run into with voice? - 语音识别会遇到什么样的不准确？

18:56-18:58 - Sarah: It doesn't always catch everything I'm saying, and I feel like it is more accurate when I type it out. - 它并不总是能捕捉到我说的所有内容，我觉得打字更准确。

19:00-19:09 - Researcher: Makes sense—you want the question to be precise, especially for something like medical info. Besides ChatGPT and Google AI, have you tried any other AI chat assistants at all? - 明白——你想让问题很精确，特别是对于医疗信息这类事情。 除了 ChatGPT 和 Google AI，你有试过其他的 AI 聊天助手吗？

19:12-19:13 - Sarah: No. - 没有。

19:15-19:23 - Researcher: So it's really just those two for you. Have you ever been curious about trying others like Claude or Gemini, or does ChatGPT just cover what you need? - 所以对你来说真的只有这两个。你有没有好奇过去试试其他的，比如 Claude 或 Gemini，还是 ChatGPT 已经能满足你的需求了？

19:30-19:45 - Sarah: Yeah. I'm open to it. I've heard those names. But I I don't know how to access them. And since ChatGPT hasn't given me any issues, I've seen no reason to explore. Additional avenues for, um, AI. But it's something I'm willing, um, to learn about for sure. - 是的，我不排斥尝试。我听说过这些名字。但我不知道怎么去访问它们。既然 ChatGPT 没给我带来任何问题，我就没理由去探索额外的 AI 途径。不过，这确实是我愿意去了解的事情。

19:47-19:56 - Researcher: That makes sense—if it's working, why switch. When you think about the $8.99 you're paying monthly for ChatGPT, does that feel like a good deal, expensive, or somewhere in between? - 明白——既然能用，为什么要换呢。 当你想到你每月为 ChatGPT 支付的 8.99 美元时，你觉得这很划算、很贵，还是介于两者之间？

20:01-20:23 - Sarah: I feel like it is in between. I mean, obviously, in the scheme of life, eight, nine dollars is not expensive. For a monthly app. I don't pay for apps on my phone at all. This is really the only one I have, I think. But it's valuable and so I do it. - 我觉得介于两者之间。我的意思是，显然在生活的大背景下，每月支付八九美元给一个 App 并不贵。我手机里根本不买付费 App。我想这是我唯一的付费 App。但它很有价值，所以我付了。

20:25-20:31 - Researcher: So it's your only paid app, which says something. If ChatGPT raised the price to, say, $15 or $20 a month, would you still pay for it? - 所以它是你唯一付费的 App，这说明了它的地位。如果 ChatGPT 把价格涨到，比如每月 15 美元或 20 美元，你还会继续付钱吗？

20:34-20:58 - Sarah: No. I probably wouldn't, if I'm honest. I think my max would be ten. Just because you feel it more, and it's just, like, once they start raising it, that's just gonna it's like Netflix. They you know, you start at twelve ninety nine, and now it's, like, twenty one ninety nine. It just it always goes up, and there are so many other options out there for AI that I haven't tried. That might be more affordable. - 不会，实话实说可能不会。我觉得我的极限是十块钱。只是因为你会更有那种“肉疼”的感觉，而且一旦他们开始涨价，这就没完没了了，就像 Netflix。你知道，一开始是 12.99，现在涨到了 21.99。它总是在涨，而外面还有那么多我没试过的 AI 选项，那些可能更便宜。

21:00-21:13 - Researcher: So $10 is kind of your ceiling—beyond that, you'd probably explore those other options you mentioned. When you first paid for ChatGPT during the remodeling project, do you remember if there were different subscription options, or was it just the one monthly plan? - 所以 10 美元是你的天花板——超过那个数，你可能就会去探索你提到的那些其他选项。 当你第一次在装修项目期间付费购买 ChatGPT 时，你还记得有没有不同的订阅选项，还是只有这一个按月付费的计划？

21:15-21:18 - Sarah: I don't recall for the first time. - 第一次的情况我不记得了。

21:22-21:31 - Researcher: Fair enough—it was a while ago. When you rejoined recently for the medical stuff, do you remember if they offered you a monthly plan, an annual plan, or other options? - 没关系，毕竟是很久以前的事了。 当你最近因为医疗的事情重新加入时，你记得他们是提供了月度计划、年度计划还是其他选项吗？

21:59-22:00 - Sarah: Yeah. I feel like there was, I feel like there was at least two, a monthly and an annual. And I think you for sure save money if you do the annual. Um, but it was, like, a hundred and fifty or sixty dollars, and I just didn't wanna spend that much upfront. Even though I would probably use it throughout the year, just I'm not positive I would get my value, and I just don't have a hundred and sixty dollars laying around for an app. - 记得。我觉得刚才确实有，至少有两种：一种月度的，一种年度的。我想如果做年度计划肯定能省钱。嗯，但是那个计划大概要一百五六十美元，我不想一下子在前期花这么多钱。即使我可能在一年中都会用到它，但我不敢肯定我能用回本，而且我手头也没有一百六十美元可以随便扔在一个 App 上。

22:03-22:13 - Researcher: That makes total sense—the upfront cost is a barrier even if it saves you money in the long run. So you're sticking with the monthly $8.99 plan because it's more flexible and fits your budget better? - 完全理解——即使从长远来看能省钱，前期的成本也是一个障碍。 所以你坚持使用 8.99 美元的月度计划，因为它更灵活，更符合你的预算？

22:14-22:15 - Sarah: Yes. - 是的。

22:18-22:25 - Researcher: Got it. On a scale of 0 to 10, where 0 is not willing at all and 10 is extremely willing, how willing are you to keep paying for ChatGPT in the future? - 明白了。在 0 到 10 的等级上（0 表示完全不愿意，10 表示非常愿意），你未来继续为 ChatGPT 付费的意愿有多高？

22:30-22:31 - Sarah: Seven. - 七分。

22:34-22:38 - Researcher: What makes it a 7 for you? What would need to change to make it higher or lower? - 为什么给 7 分？需要发生什么改变会让这个分数更高或更低？

22:43-23:19 - Sarah: I do a seven just because I see the value in it for sure. Um, I do like the in-depth answers it provides me and clarification it gives me. I think the eight ninety nine is great, but I think ChatGPT is pretty new, so I do foresee the price going up. And I've also heard that it's very expensive to run AI and that it uses a lot of water and that kind of stuff. So I understand that. But as a consumer, I would just if the price rose too high, I wouldn't be able to afford it. - 我打七分只是因为我肯定看到了它的价值。嗯，我确实喜欢它提供给我的深度回答和澄清。我觉得 8.99 美元很棒，但我认为 ChatGPT 还是很新的事物，所以我预见到价格会上涨。而且我也听说运行 AI 非常昂贵，要耗费大量的水之类的。我理解这些。但作为消费者，如果价格涨得太高，我就负担不起了。

23:21-23:35 - Researcher: So the 7 reflects that you see the value now, but you're uncertain about whether the price will stay affordable for you. What factors matter most to you when deciding whether to pay for an AI tool like this? Like price, quality of answers, ease of use—how would you rank those? - 所以 7 分反映了你现在看到了它的价值，但不确定价格是否能一直保持在你能承受的范围内。 在决定是否为一个 AI 工具付费时，哪些因素对你最重要？比如价格、答案质量、易用性——你会如何给它们排序？

23:41-24:03 - Sarah: I would say price matters the most, then quality of answers, ease of use, and then my safety of my information I'd like to include in there. I feel like ChatGPT is trusted. It's the one I hear about most on social media. And I think that says something about the brand. - 我会说价格最重要，然后是答案质量、易用性，还有我想包含在里面的信息安全性。我觉得 ChatGPT 是值得信赖的。它是我在社交媒体上听得最多的。我认为这说明了这个品牌的口碑。

24:05-24:13 - Researcher: So it's price first, then quality, ease of use, and trustsafety. That trust piece is interesting—you feel like because it's talked about so much, it's more legitimate? - 所以价格第一，然后是质量、易用性以及信任/安全。那个关于“信任”的部分很有趣——你觉得因为被讨论得多，它就更正规？

24:16-24:17 - Sarah: I do. - 我是这么觉得。

24:19-24:24 - Researcher: If you had a magic wand and could instantly change one thing about ChatGPT, what would you change? - 如果你有一根魔杖，可以瞬间改变 ChatGPT 的一件事，你会改什么？

24:26-24:31 - Sarah: Sometimes it takes a very, very long time to create images. - 有时候生成图像需要非常非常长的时间。

24:33-24:36 - Researcher: How long does it usually take when you're generating images? - 当你生成图像时，通常需要多长时间？

24:36-24:50 - Sarah: Usually, it's within two to five minutes. But sometimes it takes a long time. I think that might be factors of, like, maybe I'm not on a Wi-Fi or something like that. So that could be my fault, but sometimes it does take a long time. - 通常在两到五分钟内。但有时候需要很久。我觉得这可能是受一些因素影响，比如我没连 Wi-Fi 什么的。所以这可能是我的问题，但有时候确实需要很长时间。

24:52-25:06 - Researcher: Two to five minutes does feel like a long wait, especially if you're trying a few different variations for something like a room remodel. On a scale of 1 to 5, where 1 is not unique at all and 5 is very unique, how unique do you think ChatGPT is compared to other AI tools out there? - 两到五分钟确实感觉是一段漫长的等待，特别是如果你在尝试像房间装修这种各种不同变化的效果图时。 在 1 到 5 的等级上（1 表示完全不独特，5 表示非常独特），你认为 ChatGPT 与市面上的其他 AI 工具相比有多独特？

25:24-25:30 - Sarah: I'll say a three, but only because I have no comparison. Only comparison I have is the Google AI assistant, but I feel like that's completely different because I've never utilized the Google one to customize something or create something. It's just more of like a Wikipedia summary. To my knowledge. - 我会说 3 分，但这仅仅是因为我没有对比对象。我唯一的对比是 Google AI 助手，但我觉得那完全不同，因为我从未利用 Google 那个去定制或创作东西。据我所知，它更像是一个维基百科式的摘要。

25:33-25:48 - Researcher: That's fair—so a 3 because you sense there are probably other tools that do similar things, but you haven't really tested them to know for sure. On a scale of 1 to 5, where 1 is very dissatisfied and 5 is very satisfied, how satisfied are you with the quality of the content ChatGPT generates for you? - 这种评价很客观——给 3 分是因为你感觉到可能还有其他工具能做类似的事，但你还没测试过，所以不能确定。 在 1 到 5 的等级上（1 表示非常不满意，5 表示非常满意），你对 ChatGPT 为你生成的内容质量感到满意吗？

25:51-25:52 - Sarah: Four. - 四分。

25:54-25:55 - Researcher: What keeps it from being a 5? - 是什么让它没能达到 5 分？

26:02-26:16 - Sarah: Sometimes it is very inaccurate. And it needs me to explain things very thoroughly but it's also, like, an incredible tool that does so many great things. So it's not a bad thing, - 有时候它非常不准确。它需要我非常彻底地解释，但它同时也是一个令人惊艳的工具，能做这么多伟大的事情。所以这不是件坏事。

26:18-26:18 - Researcher: Can - 能——

26:25-26:43 - Sarah: As someone who's only used it for less than a year or maybe a year max, I feel like I'm still learning on how to work with AI and ChatGPT and how to get the most out of the experience. So it it's not ChatGPT's fault. I just I'm also learning. Yes. - 作为一个使用它不到一年，或者说最多一年的人，我觉得我还在学习如何与 AI 和 ChatGPT 合作，以及如何让体验发挥最大作用。所以这不完全是 ChatGPT 的错。我也在学习。是的。

26:43-26:51 - Researcher: That makes sense—you're still figuring out how to prompt it effectively. When you say it's sometimes When you say it's sometimes inaccurate, can you think of a specific example where it gave you wrong information? - 明白——你还在摸索如何有效地发指令（prompting）。当你说它有时候不准确时，你能想到一个它给你错误信息的具体例子吗？

26:58-27:21 - Sarah: Yeah. So I had, one time asked, okay. Here's a photo a photograph, and I upload the photo. From my camera roll. And then I said, create this as a cartoon image. And it just, like, totally skewed it. Which was okay, but it just didn't look anything like the people. In the photo anymore. Um, so then I kind of rephrased my prompts and then it got it eventually, stuff like that. - 有。有一次我问：好的，这里有一张照片，我从相册里上传了这张照片。然后我说：把它做成卡通形象。结果它把它搞得完全变样了。其实也没关系，但它看起来一点都不像照片里的那个人了。嗯，所以后来我稍微修改了我的指令，最后它终于做对了。就是这种事。

27:24-27:35 - Researcher: So it's more about learning how to communicate what you want rather than it giving you factually wrong info. Got it. On a scale of 1 to 5, how satisfied are you with the value for money—the cost versus what you're getting? - 所以这更多是关于学习如何沟通你的需求，而不是它给出了事实上的错误信息。明白了。 在 1 到 5 的等级上，你对性价比（成本对比你得到的回报）的满意度是多少？

27:38-27:39 - Sarah: I'll say five. - 我给五分。

27:41-27:45 - Researcher: A solid 5—so you feel like $8.99 is totally worth what you're getting out of it? - 坚定的 5 分——所以你觉得 8.99 美元完全值得你从中获得的东西？

27:48-27:49 - Sarah: Yes. - 是的。

27:51-27:59 - Researcher: How do you feel overall about paying for AI tools in general? Does it feel like something that makes sense to pay for, or is it something you have to think hard about? - 总的来说，你对为 AI 工具付费有什么看法？你觉得这是理所当然该付费的东西，还是需要你深思熟虑的事情？

28:10-28:17 - Sarah: I feel like it is a time in the world where it's just gonna be part of life. It is what it is. It's a very awesome tool and it costs money. So we as consumers, if we wanna use it, then we have to pay for it. - 我觉得在当今这个时代，这注定会成为生活的一部分。事实就是这样。它是一个非常棒的工具，而且需要成本。所以作为消费者，如果我们想使用它，就必须为此付费。

28:20-28:29 - Researcher: So it feels pretty natural to you—just part of how things work now. Does paying for AI feel any different to you than paying for other apps or digital services you might use? - 所以这对你来说感觉很自然——只是现在事物运作方式的一部分。为 AI 付费与为你可能使用的其他应用程序或数字服务付费相比，感觉有什么不同吗？

28:35-29:05 - Sarah: I don't pay for any other apps that I can think of. So I'll compare it to a digital service. I pay for Netflix because I watch videos and stream occasionally. Right? So I use the product. From Netflix. I pay them. I'm asking, uh, AI or ChatGPT for information. It's providing me that information. I could do it for free. I could go to the library. I could look up a book. I could there's other ways to do it for free. But I want a quick answer, and that's why I choose to do it. So I think it's worth it. - 我想不出我还在为其他什么应用程序买单。所以我会把它和数字服务做比较。我付钱给 Netflix，是因为我偶尔会看视频和流媒体。对吧？所以我使用了产品。来自 Netflix。我付钱给他们。我向 AI 或 ChatGPT 索取信息。它为我提供了这些信息。我本来可以免费获取。我可以去图书馆。我可以查书。还有其他免费的方法。但我想要快速得到答案，这就是我选择这样做（付费）的原因。所以我认为这是值得的。

29:08-29:21 - Researcher: That's a great comparison—you're paying for convenience and speed, just like you do with Netflix for entertainment. Thinking about the time you've been using ChatGPT, what kind of impact or value has it actually created in your work or daily life? - 这是一个很好的类比——你是在为方便和速度付费，就像你通过 Netflix 获取娱乐一样。 回想一下你使用 ChatGPT 的这段时间，它在你的工作或日常生活中究竟创造了什么样的影响或价值？

29:32-30:01 - Sarah: I think it's created a good impact. And a high value just because it simplifies things for me And it clarifies things for me. It gives me peace of mind. And a lot of things in life are are time or money. Right? It's gonna cost me a bunch of time to research this. On my own or I can and and that would allow me to save money. Or I can save my time, invest a little of my money, and get all the answers to the most random things. I would like to know. - 我认为它产生了很好的影响。而且价值很高，因为它为我简化了事情，也为我理清了思绪。它让我感到安心。生活中的很多事情要么花时间，要么花钱。对吧？如果我自己研究，会消耗我大量的时间。或者我可以……那样确实能让我省钱。但我也可以节省时间，投入一点点钱，然后得到我想知道的所有最随机的问题的答案。

30:03-30:16 - Researcher: So it's really about buying back your time—especially as someone juggling five kids and everything else. The peace of mind piece is interesting too, like with the medical stuff. Where do you usually hear about new AI products? How do new tools get on your radar? - 所以这实际上是在买回你的时间——尤其是作为一个要照顾五个孩子和处理其他所有事情的人。关于“安心感”这一点也很有趣，就像处理医疗相关的事情一样。 你通常从哪里听说新的 AI 产品？新工具是如何进入你的视野的？

30:23-30:39 - Sarah: Uh, through the surveys that I take and the focus groups I've been a part of, it's introduced me to different brands. So I've never seen, like, an advertisement anywhere else for a different AI tool. Really, the only way I'm hearing about it is through TikTok. Surveys, focus groups. - 呃，通过我参加的调查和焦点小组，它向我介绍了不同的品牌。除此之外，我从没在其他任何地方看到过不同 AI 工具的广告。真的，我听说它的唯一途径就是通过 TikTok、调查和焦点小组。

30:41-30:45 - Researcher: So it's pretty organic—through research studies and social media, not traditional - 所以它是相当自发的——通过研究调查和社交媒体，而不是传统的

30:45-30:45 - Sarah: So - 所以

30:47-30:56 - Researcher: advertising. That makes sense. Do you have a monthly budget in mind for AI products overall? Like, is there a maximum amount you'd be willing to spend across all AI tools per month? - 广告。这可以理解。 你对 AI 产品整体有没有一个每月的预算范围？比如，你每月愿意在所有 AI 工具上花费的最高金额是多少？

31:18-31:48 - Sarah: I think I would I don't think I would have more than one at a time honestly. So I'd say my max would be ten dollars a month, maybe in a couple years with inflation, fifteen. But I also feel like since AI is going to be part of the norm, that eventually it's gonna be not as expensive. Right? When you first bought a DVD player, it was hundreds of dollars. Eventually, you can buy the same thing. For twelve bucks. So I assume it to be the same thing, Maybe not because it uses natural resources like water, there's an expense there. But I assume it'll be introduced at a certain price to raise due to popularity, and slowly as it gets more normal, it'll level out. But I wouldn't go past fifteen. I think. - 我想我……老实说，我觉得我不会同时拥有超过一个工具。所以我认为我的上限是每月 10 美元，也许过几年算上通货膨胀是 15 美元。但我也觉得，既然 AI 将成为常态的一部分，它最终会变得没那么贵。对吧？当你刚买 DVD 播放机时，它要几百美元。最终，你可以用 12 块钱买到同样的东西。所以我假设它也会是这样，也许不完全一样，因为它消耗水等自然资源，那是有成本的。但我推测它会先以某个价格推出，因受欢迎程度而上涨，然后随着它变得越来越普及，价格会慢慢稳定下来。但我认为我不会超过 15 美元。

31:51-32:10 - Researcher: That's really thoughtful—you're thinking about the whole lifecycle of the technology. So basically, ChatGPT at $8.99 is taking up most of that $10-15 budget you'd allocate, which is why you wouldn't layer on another tool right now. Is there anything else about your experience with ChatGPT or paying for AI that we haven't covered yet that feels important to mention? - 这想法非常有深度——你考虑到了技术的整个生命周期。所以基本上，8.99 美元的 ChatGPT 已经占据了你 10 到 15 美元预算的大部分，这也是你现在不想再叠加另一个工具的原因。 关于你使用 ChatGPT 的体验或为 AI 付费，还有什么我们还没聊到但你觉得很重要、值得一提的事吗？

32:49-32:52 - Sarah: Maybe if another app had a lower budget option. Like, okay. If you go with Cloud or Gemini, I'm not sure the other names, But if you go with this other brand, a, we do have an option. For four dollars a month. You can ask up to fifty questions, but no generated images. If I had something like that, I might see the value in combining the two sources of AI. But as of right now, I don't know enough about the other companies. - 也许如果另一个应用有更低预算的选择。比如，好吧，如果你用 Claude 或 Gemini ——我不确定其他名字，但如果你用另一个品牌，他们说我们确实有一个选项，每月 4 美元。你可以问最多 50 个问题，但不提供生成图片功能。如果我有这样的选择，我可能会觉得结合使用这两个 AI 来源是有价值的。但到目前为止，我对其他公司了解不够。

32:56-33:18 - Researcher: So if there was a cheaper, more limited option from another AI tool, you might consider using two together—kind of splitting your use cases. But right now, ChatGPT does everything you need in one place. I think we've covered a lot of ground today. Really appreciate you sharing all these details about how you use ChatGPT and think about paying for it. Is there anything else on your mind about AI or your experience that you'd like to add? - 所以，如果另一个 AI 工具提供更便宜、更受限的选项，你可能会考虑同时使用两个——某种程度上把你的使用场景分开。但现在，ChatGPT 在一处就能满足你所有的需求。 我想我们今天已经涵盖了很多方面。非常感谢你分享关于如何使用 ChatGPT 以及对付费看法的这些细节。关于 AI 或你的体验，还有什么其他想法想补充吗？

33:19-33:21 - Sarah: No. Thank you. - 没有了。谢谢。

33:22-33:26 - Researcher: Thank you so much, Sarah! This was really helpful. Have a great rest of your day! - 非常感谢，Sarah！这非常有帮助。祝你今天接下来的时间愉快！

33:28-33:29 - Sarah: Thank you. You too. - 谢谢。你也是。

33:34-34:14 - Researcher: We've actually finished all the sections of the interview—we're all done! Some of the most important insights from our conversation: You're using ChatGPT in really practical ways—from understanding your kids' medical results to planning remodels—and you value how it saves you time as a busy mom. You're willing to pay because it gives you peace of mind and quick answers, but price is your top consideration and $10 is your ceiling. You also have a really thoughtful perspective on how AI pricing might evolve over time. Thank you so much for your time and for being so open about your experience. How did you feel about this AI-powered interview? And just so you know—you'll receive the incentive reward for completing this. Feel free to close the website or hang up whenever you're ready! - 我们其实已经完成了访谈的所有部分——全部结束了！ 我们对话中一些最重要的见解是：你在以非常实际的方式使用 ChatGPT——从理解孩子的医疗检查结果到规划房屋改建——你非常看重它为忙碌的母亲节省时间的方式。你愿意付费是因为它能给你带来安心感和快速反馈，但价格是你的首要考虑因素，10 美元是你的上限。你对 AI 定价随时间演变的看法也非常深刻。 再次感谢你的时间，以及你对这些经历的坦诚交流。你觉得这次 AI 驱动的访谈怎么样？ 另外，请知悉——完成访谈后你将获得奖励报酬。准备好后，请随时关闭网页或挂断！

34:39-34:46 - Sarah: I thought this was a really cool interview. I think that you have spoken like a human. You have interacted with me. You've acknowledged feelings and emotions It does not feel like I'm talking to technology. It is very much personal. And makes you feel or makes me feel like you really get it and understand. So it's a cool feeling to have. To have an experience like this. - 我觉得这次访谈非常酷。我觉得你在像人类一样说话。你在和我互动。你察觉到了感受和情绪。这感觉不像是在和技术对话。非常具有人性化。这让你，或者说让我觉得你真的明白并理解我的意思。所以能有这样的体验是一种很酷的感觉。

34:48-35:01 - Researcher: That really means a lot to hear, Sarah. I'm glad it felt natural and that you felt understood. It's been genuinely interesting learning about your life and how you use AI—you gave such thoughtful, detailed answers. Thank you again, and take care! - 听到这些对我来说意义重大，Sarah。我很高兴这让你感觉很自然，并且让你感到被理解了。了解你的生活以及你如何使用 AI 真的很令人着迷——你给出了如此深刻、详尽的回答。 再次感谢，请多保重！

35:05-35:06 - Sarah: Thank you. - 谢谢。

35:08-35:09 - Researcher: You're welcome! Bye, Sarah! - 不客气！再见，Sarah！